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Thread: Is it Battery or Starter????????

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    Default Is it Battery or Starter????????

    So my truck is fussin"
    Is It Stater or Battery?
    Scenario: 1998 GMC Sierra
    Parked it in September before my neck fusion surgery.
    Son drove it once beginning of October and got home and said it would not restart.
    Had AAA come by to jump start it and it would not, so tow driver said it was the starter not the battery.
    No clicking or anything.
    No biggy, 117K on the original starter.
    So last week Doc finally release me from my neck collar, so hey lets put in a starter.
    So you have me the gimp and my son Mr. No Mechanical skills (took small engines in High School and only learned you can use a ratchet as a noise maker)putting in a new starter.
    But battery is so dead that the door locks wont even trigger.
    So sh!t lets hook up the battery charger for a while as we change the starter out.
    New starter not a rebuilt from Autozone in, it fires right up and is happy sounding an hey its great to drive since I had not been allowed too since September.
    Some OXY and Muscle Relaxer's needed after that!
    2 days go by and SH!T the battery is dead again.
    So I yank the battery and go to Autozone and grab a replacement for the 3 year old battery.
    More OXY and Muscle Relaxer's!
    Boy I lost all my muscle in that down time!!!!!!!!!!!
    Another day goes by and I decide to run up to the Mini Mart for a Sweet Tea.
    Get my drink walk out to the truck and DAMN It Wont Start!
    Clicks but nothing.
    Keep trying and it finally catches.
    So since it clicks I'm assuming the new starter is SH!T.
    I'm not looking forward to climbing under the truck again!
    But the OXY and Relaxers are nice!!!!!!!!!
    What you more mechanical than me types think?
    Is it Starter or Battery?
    Mike

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    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... I've heard of this before...... have you checked the condition of your Ignition Fluid lately?
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    After reading again.... ironically after making my joke... I wonder about the Ignition being an issue here? A faulty Fuseable Link??? I have been handed faulty starters and alternators from auto parts stores before sooooo.... yeah.
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    Battery! When the temps change like this marginal batteries tend to go bad.
    I just replaced the batteries in Liz's car and my del Sol.
    You could put it on a charger for a night first.

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    Solenoid on the starter not engaging fully or the flywheel gears are stripped and not letting the starter gear turn the flywheel. To test my theory, the next time it won't start, rock or push the truck forward/ backward (in gear) to avoid or rotate past the "flat spot" on the flywheel and then start truck as usual... be sure to take a few Oxy's first

    Of course it could be something as simple as defective parts that you just installed as well.
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    I say just keep taking the oxy and forget about the truck.

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    Mike. So you have a new starter and a new battery installed. One or both of the new parts could have troubles but not as likely as something else being the problem. After sitting or use it won't start. After charging it starts. Seems the battery is not holding a charge or BEING CHARGED. Could be the alternator is not doing its job.

    My wife Honda's keyed ignition switch went bad and caused these same problems too. I changed the batt and starter and had the alt checked. Turned out to be the switch. Gremlins...just gotta hate them. Remember don't get 'em wet or feed after midnight!
    Have a nice day !

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    Dhaa, that's the problem, forgot about the third piece of the puzzle... the alternator is most likely the culprit.
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    What is the battery voltage? My Dodge didn't like any less than 12.8 volts.
    Will it old a charge out of the car? If not the battery is bad, If yes keep looking.
    What is the voltage when the car is running? Too high, too low or just right?

    At least that is where I would start my trouble shooting.
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    Mike, the first thing you have to do when it acts up is test the battery and connections. When it just clicks, what is the battery voltage and does the battery pass a load test? It's unlikely you have another bad battery or starter. Check those cable connections and make sure they are good, clean and tight.

    Will the truck start once the battery is charged or if it's jumped?

    It sounds like you either have a draw or the alternator isn't keeping your battery charged. If you have an amp meter I can walk you through how to test the truck for a draw. The alternator is simple. Once it's started, see what your voltmeter reads. It should be close to 13V or more.
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